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Wednesday, October 6, 2010
Manipulation and Control
Some critics argue that Lady Macbeth is more responsible than Macbeth for the murder of King Duncan. Most people, even honest ones, end up trying to manipulate someone else at one time or another in their lives, but what might happen if everyone thought it was fine to manipulate others all the time? Is it acceptable to “use someone as your pawn”? Can you think of any times when a person might need to manipulate someone else and would be morally right for doing so?
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i feel that lady macbeth was at fault for killing duncan because people will do any thing for love so macbeths head was clouded once again and thought hey lets take the thrown and frame the sons.
ReplyDelete~Juan Valdez
If everyone was out trying to manipulate everyone it would be pretty hectic to be honest, becasue you couldn't tell appart the people that were honest from the dishonest ones. its not right at all to do that to another human being becasue we are all equal and if we wouldn't want to go through it then why would we want anyone else to.
ReplyDelete~Kai Smith
i agree free will is the most important aspect in life if we controlled anyone we wanted to we would never know how each of us were
ReplyDelete~Juan Valdez
i believe that it was lady macbeth fault for killing duncan because she was the one pushing macbeth into killing duncan she used macbeth as a puppet pretty much.
ReplyDelete~ neverhide101
it is never morally right to use somebody, but in todays world its unavoidable. if this was to become openly accepted then trust would become a thing of the past.
ReplyDeleteJbreezey
An exapmle of bad manipulation is in the book where Lady Macbeth is getting Macbeth to kill Duncan so thay they could have more power. I also think that the prophecies did'nt help one bit but. that is an exapmle involving death, so it's pretty terrible to begin with. Manipulation in general i honestly don't think is a bad thing because, i can help. I think that manipulaton could help in some ways like if you dont get your history homework done because you forgot, but then you tell your teacher something terrible like my dog died then automatically you just manipulated them into thinking that oh i need to feel sorry for them, instead of worring about the homework they didn't turn in. Personally i think that everyone has manipulated in some way shape or form, so it's not like we can bash on it considering we've all done it.
ReplyDeleteKsee mattein wrote the one posted at 10:267am SORRY
ReplyDeleteThere is no good reason for manipulating a person because most of the time its for something bad and will end up in something really bad happening so i guess it should be acceptable to use people.
ReplyDeleteCAPO
the worst part of manipulation i think in this tragedy is that she was only manipulative once and look at the outcome she died he became a tyrant and then died it was a domino effect now imagine if that happened in every day life
ReplyDelete~juan valdez
If everyone thought that it’s fine to just manipulate everyone all the time then people will take that to their advantage. Although we already see this happen in our lives, it’s good that some people are still in their right mind not to use people out of greed. No one is to be trusted in our generation anymore. I’m not even sure if there’s any moral way to manipulate others.
ReplyDelete-chihiro93
Manipulation is good depending on what one thinks is moraly right. Manipulation for perpous of moral good doesn't exsist. Only type of manipulation is personal manipulation which some might consider to be good and other might disagree. The line between good and evil is very twisted and undefined.
ReplyDelete-Darkwallce
Lady Macbeth is partially at fault. Because they both had a say in the Duncan murder. I dont beleive that it is ever ok to manipulate anybody. There is a big trust issue there.
ReplyDelete-Bull3t12
I think that Lady Macbeth is the one who is truly at fault for the murder of Duncan, even though it was Macbeth who did the killing, it was his lady that was the one who convinced him to do it. If everyone thought that manipulation was OK and nothing was wrong with it then this world would not be a very good place to live in because of everyone trying to control everyone else to things to the first persons advantage. I dont think it is acceptable to use someone else as your pawn because that is against that persons right to free will.
ReplyDelete~rebelball61
I quite honestly believe that it was Lady Macbeth's fault for the death of Duncan. Although Macbeth actually committed the murder she made him feel like he would be less of a man and worthless had he not gone through with it. But if everyone fell victim to manipulation and to being a manipulator, the world would lead itself to its own plummeting spiral down to endless hurt, chaos, and dishonesty. ~Kai Smith has a point where you wouldnt be able to separate the honest from the dishonest, but i dont think that would be too much of an issue because if everyone was dishonorable and dishonest enough to manipulate then there would be no brighter side; all would be lost to manipulation.
ReplyDeleteI quite honestly believe that it was Lady Macbeth's fault for the death of Duncan. Although Macbeth actually committed the murder she made him feel like he would be less of a man and worthless had he not gone through with it. But if everyone fell victim to manipulation and to being a manipulator, the world would lead itself to its own plummeting spiral down to endless hurt, chaos, and dishonesty. ~Kai Smith has a point where you wouldnt be able to separate the honest from the dishonest, but i dont think that would be too much of an issue because if everyone was dishonorable and dishonest enough to manipulate then there would be no brighter side; all would be lost to manipulation.
ReplyDeleteend_samsara
i think that the murder was lady macbeths fauly for egging macbeth on when he was unsure
ReplyDeletetunerslug
i agree with end_samsara. Lady Macbeth pretty much told Macbeth that she would think lesss of him if he didnt kill duncan, so Macbeth killed him. i think that is no way that manipulation could be a good thing.
ReplyDelete-Llama Z
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ReplyDeleteIf someone was about to end their life and i used the power of manipulation on them to get them to not hurt themselves i would feel completely moral about that as long asa the power was not abused.
ReplyDelete-Usernameunknown
I don't think its ok to use someone else as a "pawn". Manipulation is very destructive like we saw when Lady Macbeth manipulated Macbeth into killing Duncan. I can't think of a time when someones needs to manipulate someone else because manipulating is taking away freewill.
ReplyDelete-Chocolate Rain
i do think it is lady macbeth fault for king duncans dealth. macbeth did not want to do so and was shocked after doing so. this is just like the saying if sally told you to go jump of a bridge would you? everyday there would be millions of problems because if we all controlledpeople then it would be like we are remote controlled poeple which would not make us a freedom country.
ReplyDelete-bugg
i think macbeth is more responsible for the murder of duncan because he had the choice no to do it, but he listened to lady macbeth anyways and killed him. he could have ignored her manipulation and done his own thing. he is his own person. in the real world, people manipulate others just to get what they want.
ReplyDeleteBill
This is a very good topic. First, Lady Macbeth did manipulate Macbeth in the beggining but she paid for it in the end so Karma was settled. If everyone thought it would be ok to manipulate others, this world would just be ruled by one person. It would lead to a very complicated heirarchy that eventually would crumble, probably due to corruption. I think in certain instances it is ok to use someone as your pawn. Unfortunately i cannot think of a specific example, so i am forced to drop that point.
ReplyDelete-KottonmouthKing
ksee you have a valid point. however who did that minipulation help? either way you dont have your paper in and now what happens if your dog actually dies? you cant use that excuse again. and you still have a zero
ReplyDelete~Cataru
If everyone thought that it was ok to manipulate everyone else no one would try for anything because they could just "use" other people to do things for them. The only time I can think of that it would be ok to manipulate someone would be if the person being manipulated was in great danger or it would benefit them more than hurt them.
ReplyDeleteDinosaur :)
i feel that it's macbeth's fault for killing duncan just because he was the one who actually killed him, not Lady Macbeth. He didn't have to listen to her, it was his final choice in the end
ReplyDeleteMurbs
Yeah, I don't think Lady Macbeth was responsible for Duncan's death at all. It's kind of like if you rob a bank and get caught, then when you're in jail you say, "Oh no, it's not my fault. He told me to do it,". That doesn't work. Macbeth killed Duncan. He is not an animal or something Lady Macbeth remotely controlled. He is a human with thoughts and emotions, so no matter what she prompted him to do, it was all of his own doing. The weight rests solely on his shoulders...
ReplyDeleteiliketurtles
i agree with Dinosaur:) because benefting from a negative action such as murder will never leave your thoughts. but benefiting from manipulation is ok because one day you will be able to relaese the anger frustration and any other negative feelings because it is worthing getting over.
ReplyDeleteMcLovin <3
it is NEVER okay to manipulate someone into doing something because its going against their wishes, cause if they really wanted to do it they would probably act on it. its like using someone to get what you want. so if you can manipulate someone into doing something, why cant you just do it yourself? be a man.
ReplyDelete-funnybunny
its not ok to use another person to do you bidding if this always happened this world would be one crooked and awful place to be. Yes i have used someone befor and i felt bad in the end i put a whole in my bedroom door and i had my little sister blame it on the boys. Well they were the ones running around, she told everyone that she saw them do it and sure enough they got introuble. If this happened all the time good people would be introuble while the bad people were earning praise. There is a time when i believe it would be moraly ok to manipulate someone into something, this situtation however is during a murder investigation. In this situtation i believe that manipulating someone in to saying they did it when they really did do the crime is moraly ok they are catching a bad person in the right way and making them admit they do it.
ReplyDeleteMissbell105
Is it acceptable to “use someone as your pawn"?
ReplyDeletenot even at the slightest, yet people do it more then they realize. at one point in time evveryone will evetuallly ask something of someone that will become a habbit. its as simple as asking for a ride home.
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